Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

04/26/2021 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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*+ HB 21 ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS TELECONFERENCED
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         HB 21-ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:28:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND announced  that  the final  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 21,  "An Act relating  to the  Board of                                                               
Regents of the University of Alaska."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:29:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ADAM WOOL,  Alaska  State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented  HB  21,  which he  said  would  add  another                                                               
position to the University of Alaska  (UA) Board of Regents for a                                                               
tenured faculty  member, which would  carry a two-year term.   He                                                               
said the term  would be identical in length to  that of a student                                                               
regent, and that the additional  member would provide both parity                                                               
and fairness.   He  characterized the  proposed legislation  as a                                                               
move  that  would give  the  faculty  a  voice  on the  Board  of                                                               
Regents.   With regards to  possible conflicts of  interest, such                                                               
as  salary decisions,  he  pointed out  that  members may  recuse                                                               
themselves.   He said conflicts  of interest affecting  a faculty                                                               
member on  the board could be  handled the same way  they've been                                                               
handled for the student regents since 1976.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:32:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ASHLEY  CARRICK, Staff,  Representative Adam  Wool, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of Representative Wool,  prime sponsor of                                                               
HB  21, presented  a  PowerPoint  titled "HB  21:   UIVERSITY  OF                                                               
ALASKA FACULTY  REGENT."  She  presented slide 2,  "UNIVERSITY OF                                                               
ALASKA  BOARD  OF  REGENTS MEMBERSHIP,"  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ?10 Regents serve 8-year terms                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ?1 Student regent:                                                                                                         
          ? Serves a 2-year term                                                                                                
          ? Has full board powers                                                                                               
          ? Must have 2.5 cumulative GPA                                                                                        
       ? 2 students are elected by their campus and then                                                                        
     a nominee is selected by the Governor                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ?Current Role of Faculty with the BOR:                                                                                     
         ? Faculty Alliance makes a report at each BOR                                                                          
          meeting                                                                                                               
          ? Speaking rights                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARRICK  presented slide  3,  "STATE  BY STATE  COMPARISON,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ?16 state Universities have a student regent                                                                               
     ?6 state Universities have a faculty regent                                                                                
     ?4  state Universities have both a  faculty and student                                                                    
     regent                                                                                                                     
     ?15%   of private  institutions  also  have  a  faculty                                                                    
     regent                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARRICK  noted that  when  student  or faculty  regents  are                                                               
mentioned, the reference is specific  to boards that include such                                                               
regents as full voting members  who also participate in executive                                                               
session and travel  with the board.  She then  presented slide 4,                                                               
"EXAMPLES:  OREGON  AND  PENNSYLVANIA,"  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       Oregon State University and University of Oregon:                                                                    
     Trustees Board  has 15  members, including  11 at-large                                                                    
     members,  1 faculty  member, 1  student  member, and  1                                                                    
     staff member all appointed by the Governor.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       Pennsylvania State University:                                                                                       
     Trustee  Board has  38  Members,  including 6  at-large                                                                    
     members,  9 alumni-elected  members, and  6 agriculture                                                                    
     members. In  addition, the Board elects  6 members- one                                                                    
     of which is a faculty member.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARRICK presented slide 5,  "EXAMPLES: FLORIDA, KENTUCKY, AND                                                               
TENNESSEE,"   which  read   as   follows  [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
       State University system of Florida:                                                                                  
     17   members  total   including  14   at-large  members                                                                    
     appointed by  the Governor, the  Chair of  the Advisory                                                                    
     Council  of   Faculty  Senates,  the   Commissioner  of                                                                    
     Education,  and  the  Chair   of  the  Florida  Student                                                                    
     Association                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       Kentucky State University:                                                                                           
     11  voting members,  including  8  at-large members,  1                                                                    
     faculty and 1 staff  regent elected by their respective                                                                    
     governing councils, and 1 student regent.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       Tennessee University System:                                                                                         
     18  members total,  including  12  at-large members,  1                                                                    
     faculty member, 1 student, and 4 exofficio members.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARRICK presented slide 6, "HB  21: HOW IT WORKS," which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Increases the number of Regents from 11 to 12                                                                            
     ? 2  nominees from  the Faculty Senate  of each  of the                                                                    
     three main campuses are put forward                                                                                        
     ? Governor selects one appointee                                                                                           
     ? Faculty must be tenured                                                                                                  
     ? Serves a 2-year term                                                                                                     
     ? Has the  full powers of a regent  for voting, travel,                                                                    
     and entering executive session                                                                                             
     ? Majority  vote needed  for a motion  of the  Board to                                                                    
     carry                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARRICK  presented slide 7,  "BENEFITS OF A  FACULTY REGENT,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? More than a "seat at the table"                                                                                          
     ?  Faculty  can  enter executive  session,  travel  for                                                                    
     Board meetings, and can vote                                                                                               
     ?  Improves   the  ability   for  faculty   to  provide                                                                    
     stakeholder interest                                                                                                       
     ?  Held  to a  standard  of  professionalism- they  can                                                                    
     recuse themselves from a conflicted vote                                                                                   
     ?  Ensures that  faculty,  like students,  are given  a                                                                    
     voting interest in University affairs                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:40:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY asked how  tie votes would be negotiated,                                                               
since there would be an even number of board members.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL replied  that previous  iterations of  HB 21                                                               
had  the university  president as  the  tie-breaker; however,  he                                                               
said, there was  some resistance to that idea.   Since a majority                                                               
of votes would  be needed for a  measure to pass, he  said, a tie                                                               
vote would mean the measure failed to pass.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:41:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND opened public testimony on HB 21.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:41:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER  BATCHELDER,  Chair,   Faculty  Alliance,  University  of                                                               
Alaska,  testified  in  support  of  HB 21.    She  said  Faculty                                                               
Alliance feels  that having the  faculty voice be an  active part                                                               
of UA Board of Regents'  discussions would be beneficial, and she                                                               
expressed that  the addition of  a faculty member would  be well-                                                               
received  by  the  accrediting agency,  Northwest  Commission  on                                                               
Colleges  and  Universities (NWCCU).    She  noted concerns  from                                                               
legislators  regarding adding  a faculty  position to  the board,                                                               
and  she said  faculty  members are  committed to  collaboration.                                                               
Regarding  conflict  of interest  issues,  she  said the  faculty                                                               
members would recuse themselves,  if necessary.  Regarding voting                                                               
to  defund programs,  she said  the essence  of programs  are the                                                               
students and  faculty creating the  mutual cycle of  teaching and                                                               
learning through interactive experiences,  and programs are often                                                               
studied and  restructured.  Educators  abide by a strict  code of                                                               
professional conduct, she  said, and would abide  by all policies                                                               
governing  the  Board of  Regents.    She  said  HB 21  has  been                                                               
deliberated within the  Faculty Senates at each  campus, and they                                                               
all firmly support the proposed legislation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:44:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SEAN BLEDSOE, Student, University  of Alaska Fairbanks, testified                                                               
in support of HB  21.  He expressed the need  for a faculty voice                                                               
on the  Board of Regents, and  stated that he is  concerned about                                                               
the loss  of tenured faculty  and their replacement  with adjunct                                                               
professors.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:46:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NALINAKSHA   BHATTACHARYYA,   Faculty,   University   of   Alaska                                                               
Anchorage,  testified  in  support  of   HB  21.    He  discussed                                                               
educators'  deep   respect  for  knowledge,  and   said  that  by                                                               
excluding tenured faculty from the  Board of Regents, the members                                                               
are getting  every perspective  except for  that of  an academic.                                                               
He said  the business of  a university is threefold:   production                                                               
of  knowledge (research),  distribution of  knowledge (teaching),                                                               
and service.   He  expressed that  it is  always faculty  "on the                                                               
chopping  block" when  considering  budget issues,  and he  noted                                                               
that only 20 percent of the budget  goes to faculty.  He said the                                                               
Board of Regents would benefit from having a faculty member.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:50:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE  MAIER,  PhD,  President,  Faculty  Senate,  University  of                                                               
Alaska  Fairbanks (UAF),  testified in  support  of HB  21.   She                                                               
informed  the committee  that  the UAF  Faculty  Senate passed  a                                                               
resolution  fully  supporting HB  21,  stating  that faculty  and                                                               
students are  the "core" of  the university, so having  a faculty                                                               
member on the Board of Regents  is imperative.  She said the lack                                                               
of a  faculty voice and perspective  on the Board of  Regents has                                                               
been  damaging  to  the  university,  resulting  in  ill-informed                                                               
decisions, particularly  in recent years.   The current structure                                                               
of  the board,  she said,  allows a  single faculty  member seven                                                               
minutes at the  beginning of the meeting to present  a report; no                                                               
faculty  member  is allowed  to  speak  again unless  questioned.                                                               
When  the board  is presented  with questionable  information and                                                               
faulty  data, she  said, the  faculty  member is  not allowed  to                                                               
speak; when  discussing dismantling a crucial  program, she said,                                                               
no  academic experts  are allowed  to speak.   She  characterized                                                               
these exclusions  as a  "huge disconnect" from  the reality  of a                                                               
university, and she said they  damage the ability of a university                                                               
to lead the way into the future.   A board in any other industry,                                                               
she said, would  have members who are  full-time professionals in                                                               
that industry,  which ensures a  deep and  thorough understanding                                                               
of the matter overseen by the board.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:54:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIA   WILLIAMS,  Faculty,   University  of   Alaska  Anchorage,                                                               
testified in  support of HB 21.   She said she  has been teaching                                                               
at University  of Alaska Anchorage  (UAA) for 10 years,  and that                                                               
most  of   her  family   has  attended   the  university.     She                                                               
characterized  the   Board  of  Regents  as   "fastidious"  about                                                               
conflicts of interest.  She  said faculty comprises approximately                                                               
18 percent  of the budget,  including salaries and  benefits, and                                                               
she  expressed agreement  with Dr.  Maier's  assessment that  the                                                               
Board  of  Regents  has  made   damaging  decisions  due  to  its                                                               
disconnect from the faculty and curriculum.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:56:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA WILDFEUER, President-Elect,  Faculty Senate, University of                                                               
Alaska Fairbanks, testified  in support of HB 21.   She expressed                                                               
having observed  many occasions  on which  a faculty  position on                                                               
the Board of Regents would have been beneficial.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:58:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND, after  ascertaining there was no  one else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 21.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:59:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  asked whether any current  Board of Regents                                                               
members have expressed an opinion on the proposed legislation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL   stated  that   no  current   regents  have                                                               
expressed  an opinion.    He said  the issue  of  exclusion of  a                                                               
faculty member  on the  Board of Regents  has been  in discussion                                                               
for  some time,  and  that  the issue  of  the  possibility of  a                                                               
conflict of  interest has arisen  many times.   He said,  "I just                                                               
said,  'I don't  really  think this  conflict  of interest  thing                                                               
really holds water.  You have a  student on there.  If you didn't                                                               
have a  student on there,  then you could maybe  legitimately say                                                               
... but why do  you bring a student regent on?   Because you want                                                               
the student's  perspective.'"  He  said the university  is filled                                                               
with students with the goal  of education and graduation, so it's                                                               
important to have  the voice of a student on  the board; however,                                                               
he said, faculty  is needed to educate and  graduate students, so                                                               
you need  that voice as well.   He pointed out  that any hospital                                                               
board is  not only  accountants and  business owners;  there will                                                               
always be doctors on the board.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:02:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND announced that HB 21 was held over.                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 21 Backup Faculty Alliance Support Letter.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB 21 Backup Intro Presentation.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB 21 Committee Packet 4.26.2021.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB 21 Bill.PDF HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB 21 Sectional.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB 21 Sponsor.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
CS for HB 164 Sectional Analysis for Sections 14 and 35 4.23.2021.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 164
CS for HB 164 Version I Sectional Analysis 4.23.2021.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 164
HB 164 Supporting Document - Educational Opportunity Timeline for the past 25 years 4.23.2021.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 164
HB 164 Supporting Document Nome Public Schools Pre-K Information 4.23.2021.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 164
HB 21 FN UA.SS 4.26.2021.pdf HEDC 4/26/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 21